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Post by Christopher on Jun 24, 2005 18:57:54 GMT -5
Then don't use nuclear power plants, and become a giant trash pile, instead. Either way, we lose.
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Post by nobledreamhome on Jun 24, 2005 19:11:57 GMT -5
No, see, it won't become a giant trash pile. We could probably convince Leafy to come eat all the trash. She eats alllllll sorts of things. ;D
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Post by Christopher on Jun 24, 2005 19:17:14 GMT -5
That could work...then again i don't know who/what leafy is.
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Post by aric on Jun 24, 2005 22:24:21 GMT -5
I think she's talking about Leaf Muncher, who is an old member on the original ToP.
Anyway, why do people assume that there's going to be a radioactive crater or something when you build nuclear power plants? There are new reactors being designed that hold the nuclear waste and generate power from it.
There are ways of making these things safe. take a look at France. They get more than half of their energy from nuclear power. I haven't heard of the French countryside being riddled with meltdowns.
All this negative talk about nuke power doesn't really pertain to nuclear energy per se, just engineering incompetance.
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Post by Christopher on Jun 24, 2005 22:40:06 GMT -5
Yeah, that's what I told Barry (that it was safe, not the whole French part). It's just fun to talk about disasters, and turning PA into a crater.
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Post by Azonthus on Jun 27, 2005 15:00:44 GMT -5
There are ways of making these things safe. take a look at France. They get more than half of their energy from nuclear power. I haven't heard of the French countryside being riddled with meltdowns. *laughs* France still stinks. Trust me; been there, smelled it. Paris smells worse than any place in the US I've been to, and I've been in 41 states.
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Post by Christopher on Jun 27, 2005 15:04:18 GMT -5
That may be true, but they haven't had a nuclear meltdown. Though maybe they should, the radiation would kill off everything that is making the smell.
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Post by Vorchia on Jun 28, 2005 14:35:47 GMT -5
HEY! Paris does NOT smell any worse then other cities in Europe or elsewhere. You just don't LIKE Paris. I however, know how beautiful Paris is in springtime. You only know it from racing through in two or three days in summer! You don't get a good view of place like that... Its too hurried, too fast, you never get to see any detail, you miss out on the beauty. Really, Paris in springtime, hanging on one of the hundreds of little chairs in the Jardin du Luxembourgh or drawing on the Seine river, THAT is Paris too. Of course Paris is also smog and insane traffic and crime but isn't New York City? Isn't Los Angeles? Isn't Washington? I love that Paris, the artistic side of it, the history... It has so much history. That alone is a reason to want to go see it. American cities haven't had as much time to build up history, no buildings more then few hundred years old... I'm not saying the American cities are bad, don't get me wrong, I appreciate the more modern architecture and the big trainstation of New York CIty for instance, is beautiful. The statue of Liberty was a gift from France, a smaller version can be found ona pedestal at the Seine river... Just, even though you may hate the French, give it a chance. I'm half French and I'm not so bad am I? Trust me, the ra of the Freedom Fries was a painful one. Try being half French when everyone is suddenly anti-French... I managed to stay nice, what el;se was I to do? Any form of self defence would have been considered proof of how bad the French are... I like the ITER project, its goiung to be done in France and it might just work. Fear not the FUSION reactor, mwahahaha. Actually, if the Fusion reactor can be made to work, it'll be the end of our energy problem. I don't get HOW they intend to make it work as fusion involves a plasma with a temperature and pressure like that of the inside of the sun...
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Post by richard on Aug 17, 2005 19:10:53 GMT -5
"The planet is fine. The people are ****ed. "
~George Carlin
seriously, the planet was here long before us. It'll be here long after we're gone.
and anything other than oil powered cars is never gonna happen. there's no money in that! no money outside of gasoline! they're charging 2.55 a gallon here and going UP. there's too much money to allow a change to happen here.
't is all about lining your pockets with gold before you die. A foolish goal, but one everyone seems to leap at.
I want out. now.
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Post by RedFeather on Aug 18, 2005 10:25:47 GMT -5
Exactly. I don't think the planet's in danger. Just the species that live on it.
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Post by GreySpectrum on Aug 18, 2005 13:16:36 GMT -5
I think a brand new kindof power. One that collects static electricity from the atmosphere would be nice. Nature has been using it since the planets creation with lightning. Either that or taking the nuclear power plants and finding a way to make them fusion instead of fission which creates alot of undisposable nuclear waste.
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Post by aric on Aug 18, 2005 21:43:26 GMT -5
Actually, thre are new nuclear reactor designs that contain the waste and reuse them to generate more electricity.
Nothing short of nuclear can save this species, ironically. Anything else simply doesn't provide enough power to sustain highly industrial societies.
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Post by RedFeather on Aug 19, 2005 9:26:40 GMT -5
Or, humans could go back to their primitive roots, and hunt and gather, and walk everywhere. But I don't see that happening anytime soon. Humans are FAR too proud and stuck on themselves to do that. *snorts*
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Post by richard on Aug 19, 2005 12:15:47 GMT -5
*lol* Minstelae... so accurate. So painful. *lol*
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Post by aric on Aug 20, 2005 3:09:02 GMT -5
Or, humans could go back to their primitive roots, and hunt and gather, and walk everywhere. Since that style of life can't support six billion people, it would result in a massive die-off of human beings. But I don't see that happening anytime soon. Humans are FAR too proud and stuck on themselves to do that. *snorts* I wouldn't necessarily say proud, though stuck on themselves might apply. There's a lot of short-sightedness. People don't put too much thought towards the future. Mostly, we just concentrate on what is necessary to get by. Work to pay the bills, sow seeds to harvest crops later in the year, and find the next hiding place to stay away from a neighboring tribe that wants to kill you. It's possible they might be aware of what may happen in the distant future, but the abstract is never more important to us than the here and now. At least, that's how I see it. - Aric
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