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Post by Vorchia on Oct 15, 2005 12:43:36 GMT -5
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Stouthorn
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Post by Stouthorn on Oct 15, 2005 13:42:04 GMT -5
Well, the movie based view was based on the scientist's view...just read Raptor Red and you'll see. Of course, the movies exaggerate their intelligence, but the idea of the disembowling claw was pretty scientifically sound until, like, a week ago I guess...
I dunno whether I'm disappointed or not. While not quite as dramatic, the new idea is still pretty badass.
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Post by Vorchia on Oct 15, 2005 16:05:42 GMT -5
I know... Its just so unexpected its hillarious. I mean its the ONE raptor chliche everyone knows and its being questioned, gotta love the idea.
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Post by Stouthorn on Oct 15, 2005 16:52:55 GMT -5
Might even better than the T. rex scavenger thing.
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Post by RedFeather on Oct 20, 2005 15:02:40 GMT -5
No reason the claw couldn't have been used for both the purpose of hanging on and for the disemboweling of prey - it probably depended on what prey they were hunting, and what positions they needed to be in to kill it. I doubt if raptors hunted the exact same way ALL the time - there had to be some room for variations of a known hunting practice. That's just how life is.
As to the disemboweling, that was not from the movies, books, etc. That had nothing to do with JP, and that WAS based on scientific fact. However, the people in the movies, books, etc. (JP and such) basically took fact and embellished it so much that it became unrealistic and somewhat overdone.
Raptors could kick your @ss, yes. And you really, really would not want to make one mad. But I feel that they killed only when they needed to eat, and didn't waste their energy on killing just to kill, as the JP books stated. That aspect, I thought, was ridiculous.
If you do want a more accurate raptor read, yes, I highly suggest reading Raptor Red. It's not based on the JP idea at all. Sure, there are parts which are liable to be incorrect, or unproven, but that's how things are - you cannot prove everything.
But in my opinion, it is much more likely that a creature like a raptor would evolve more than just one hunting tactic, and that probably, just as I feel that the great tyrannosaurs hunted, but would scavenge if they found some meat at the same time, perhaps raptors disemboweled prey when it benefitted them and made their prey more easy to kill, but that perhaps, at times, the raptors could have used their claws merely to hold on, as well. Very often in life, it is a mixture of many tactics, thoughts, ideas, things, etc., etc., etc.
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Post by Stouthorn on Oct 20, 2005 22:03:31 GMT -5
Yeah, disembowling would be cool, but the British scientists were trying to discern whether or not it would be possible for a raptor to do so, so...yeah.
No one's bashing raptors.
BUT the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park killed cuz they were pissed, and cuz they kept crossing paths with the humans. Who knows? Maybe they were hungry.
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