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Queztal Noir Sculpt- by Snipe
::looks desperately confused among the sand not knowing where to find the 'post new topic' button. Finally finds it and deftly clicks it, then looking at a jumble of pics and becoming even more confused::
Well after I dun wanna think how long, it's done! And I have the proof! But Im not gonna show you. Wait...yes, yes I am. Sorry I took a while commander, overwhemled by various bits of insanity this week/end...but I'm here...CALM DOWN IT'LL ALL BE OKAY..
The poor mask before Snipe got his paws on it...
www.cityofmists.com/Remote/Temple/oldTP/quetzalbefore.jpg
Oooooooohhhh...aaaaaahhhhhh....
www.cityofmists.com/Remote/Temple/oldTP/quetzalheadon.jpg
Left mug shot of the beast....
www.cityofmists.com/Remote/Temple/oldTP/quetzalleft2.jpg
So pretty....so shiny...
www.cityofmists.com/Remote/Temple/oldTP/quetzalleft.jpg
I'll leave the Commander to explain what he will to you bout the interferance colors (the oh so enjoyable sparkly kind) and all the other insanity involved in mutilating the previous odd mask into the...um...current even...odder...not-mask...
-Fire who really needs to get more sleep
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Veddy Skeddy. Can I sign up for a face-lift, too?
Thanks for the postage, Firey. The wait was worth it.
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Snipe what you did with that mask was very clever indeed. The thing was butt ugly at first, but you crafted it so it's alot better! It kinda reminds me of a starwars sort of mask at first, from the frontal view, but then when i saw those glimmering teeth, which add life into the metal it came across as Pteranodon that had been worked on lol! I think my favorite feature though is the great purple and green "feathers" on it's head. I have one question, whacha gonna do with it now it's done? Is it gonna live in your home, go to a gallery or are you going to sell it? It's very good Snipe *Pats Snipe on the back* I'm proud of you, here you deserve an extra sparkly, extra tasty, extra shiney, extra wonderful, magical crayon.
*Hands Snipe a positivly glowing golden crayon*
~Leaf Munchies~
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Amazing transformation, Snipe! From a discolored metal sculpture to an almost living ancient creature.
Whatever you did in regard to the coloring of the metal seems to give it the ancient feel. I particularly like the fierce looking teeth which stand out in contrast to the mask, the multi-colored feathers atop the head which glisten with movement, and the mysterious etchings alongside the eyes.
I do hope that you will share with us the details of the transformation.
Oh yes, and a big thank you to FireBane for posting this!
How can we be so different and feel so much alike?...How can we feel so different and be so much alike? -- from Stellaluna
Edited by: ShadowStriker at: 9/3/01 3:02:02 pm
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A little bit of this, a little bit of that-
First, to answer Leafy's question as to what I'm going to do
with it- it will live at my house for the time being. By spending time with pieces, their stories/myths/histories slowly give way- and I will be there to catch them. When this piece has told me all I need to know, then I will consider passing it on to others waiting in the wings.
Now to address Shadowstriker's inquiries regarding the process- the original mask was carved out of wood, and I would estimate approximately ten percent of the original surface sculpt was left (the area just behind the eye ridges) intact. All the rest is a mixture of wood, metal, epoxy and (less we forget) hotglue. This was covered with multiple layers of acrylic gel medium and gesso in the following mind numbing order- coat, sand, repeat. And again. This process is
necessary to achieve the degree of surface texture that resides somewhere between ancient relic/scale/bone.
When I first started the painting process the entire form was
layered in a combination of iron powder and mica flakes suspended in an acrylic medium- this gave it a shiny, metallic
sheen. Then came the patinas to rust and age it- built up slowly in layers and then lightly sanded to knock it back a few
coats and then repeated to desired effect. The shiny feather/horns on top of the head are painted with interference colors- like iridescent colors, but much more dramatic- especially on top of a black base coat, as on this piece.
The pix here were shot with a digital camera- it's a good camera, but digital still isn't quite there yet- add to that that the files had to be converted to send and post- and what you get are images suitable to convey overall form, but not the subtlety of the surface quality. Later (as in much) I'll shoot some slides of the piece so that you can get a clearer picture.
At this time I would like to thank Firebane- whom I know is buried under eight feet (and raising) of schoolwork at this very moment- for posting the images for me.
Just in case you were wondering if I learned all this nifty stuff at art school- nope. The school I attended stressed concept over craft, and I was constantly derided for making things that were so finished. The fact that I was making "pedestal art" in a new genres and performance/video
dept. didn't help much either. Of course none of my teachers or fellow students could see the statement I was making by creating such obviously non cutting edge work:
You guys go ahead and play your games with language and reference and keep creating work that panders to art critics and curators. I'll make these "Things" that act as vessels for
myth, both ancient and modern- and release them on an unsuspecting world. Cheers.
Edited by: Snipe at: 9/4/01 11:54:06 am
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Movie...has...affected...thought...process...can't...think..
Saw that stupid Jay and Silent Bob movie....now the only thing I can think of to say is....
Dude, that's pretty f***ing sweet.
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toatlly agree Snipe, i don't like how people are moulding people to people's views.. anway night night.
~Leaf ~
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Re: Queztal Noir Sculpt- by Snipe
Regarding the transformation process, let me begin by stating that if Snipe hadn't informed us, that I would have never guessed that the original mask was wood. To me it looked like rusted, discolored metal. Shows how much I don't know.
Also, in spite of the dramatic transformation, which is obvious when visually examining the sculpture, I had no idea of the labor intensive process required in addition to the artistic skill in shaping the piece and bringing life into it. Again, shows how much I don't know.
Though I don't fully comprehend the entire process, I took enough art classes in high school to be at least familiar with some of the mediums and processes described, and was especially interested to read how Snipe achieved the metallic look as well as the iridescent feathers.
I am curious as to the "etchings" alongside the eyes, Snipe. Are they actual etchings or were they somehow painted on to make them appear as such? To me, they are one aspect of the sculpture which adds the mysterious ancient feel, along with the metallic texture and glistening feathers.
I find it fascinating that only a small percentage of the original mask was used as a basis for the sculpture, though retaining enough similarities to let us know that it is the same piece. Whereas the original mask is somewhat garish in appearance it has been transformed into a representation of an ancient mysterious creature.
Thank you for sharing, Snipe, both the sculpture and the sculptor's process.
How can we be so different and feel so much alike?...How can we feel so different and be so much alike? -- from Stellaluna
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Ooh! Great job! To me, it looks something like a Skeksees (sp?) from Dark Crystal. Either that or some strange helmet for an alien. The feathers are a great touch, and I love the shine on them! And I think it looks tremendously better than what it was before you got it=)
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Now that you mention it, it does look like one of them thingys from the Dark Crystal. Great job oh Commander-Shaman of the sacred Isle.
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Queztal Noir Sculpt- by Snipe
::looks desperately confused among the sand not knowing where to find the 'post new topic' button. Finally finds it and deftly clicks it, then looking at a jumble of pics and becoming even more confused::
Well after I dun wanna think how long, it's done! And I have the proof! But Im not gonna show you. Wait...yes, yes I am. Sorry I took a while commander, overwhemled by various bits of insanity this week/end...but I'm here...CALM DOWN IT'LL ALL BE OKAY..
The poor mask before Snipe got his paws on it...
www.cityofmists.com/Remote/Temple/oldTP/quetzalbefore.jpg
Oooooooohhhh...aaaaaahhhhhh....
www.cityofmists.com/Remote/Temple/oldTP/quetzalheadon.jpg
Left mug shot of the beast....
www.cityofmists.com/Remote/Temple/oldTP/quetzalleft2.jpg
So pretty....so shiny...
www.cityofmists.com/Remote/Temple/oldTP/quetzalleft.jpg
I'll leave the Commander to explain what he will to you bout the interferance colors (the oh so enjoyable sparkly kind) and all the other insanity involved in mutilating the previous odd mask into the...um...current even...odder...not-mask...
-Fire who really needs to get more sleep
"Um, is it supposed to be stupid?"
"It's not stupid, it's advanced!".
-Zim
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Veddy Skeddy. Can I sign up for a face-lift, too?
Thanks for the postage, Firey. The wait was worth it.
"Sometimes, the dragon WINS..."
Leaf Muncher
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Applauds..
Snipe what you did with that mask was very clever indeed. The thing was butt ugly at first, but you crafted it so it's alot better! It kinda reminds me of a starwars sort of mask at first, from the frontal view, but then when i saw those glimmering teeth, which add life into the metal it came across as Pteranodon that had been worked on lol! I think my favorite feature though is the great purple and green "feathers" on it's head. I have one question, whacha gonna do with it now it's done? Is it gonna live in your home, go to a gallery or are you going to sell it? It's very good Snipe *Pats Snipe on the back* I'm proud of you, here you deserve an extra sparkly, extra tasty, extra shiney, extra wonderful, magical crayon.
*Hands Snipe a positivly glowing golden crayon*
~Leaf Munchies~
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Re: Queztal Noir Sculpt- by Snipe
Amazing transformation, Snipe! From a discolored metal sculpture to an almost living ancient creature.
Whatever you did in regard to the coloring of the metal seems to give it the ancient feel. I particularly like the fierce looking teeth which stand out in contrast to the mask, the multi-colored feathers atop the head which glisten with movement, and the mysterious etchings alongside the eyes.
I do hope that you will share with us the details of the transformation.
Oh yes, and a big thank you to FireBane for posting this!
How can we be so different and feel so much alike?...How can we feel so different and be so much alike? -- from Stellaluna
Edited by: ShadowStriker at: 9/3/01 3:02:02 pm
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A little bit of this, a little bit of that-
First, to answer Leafy's question as to what I'm going to do
with it- it will live at my house for the time being. By spending time with pieces, their stories/myths/histories slowly give way- and I will be there to catch them. When this piece has told me all I need to know, then I will consider passing it on to others waiting in the wings.
Now to address Shadowstriker's inquiries regarding the process- the original mask was carved out of wood, and I would estimate approximately ten percent of the original surface sculpt was left (the area just behind the eye ridges) intact. All the rest is a mixture of wood, metal, epoxy and (less we forget) hotglue. This was covered with multiple layers of acrylic gel medium and gesso in the following mind numbing order- coat, sand, repeat. And again. This process is
necessary to achieve the degree of surface texture that resides somewhere between ancient relic/scale/bone.
When I first started the painting process the entire form was
layered in a combination of iron powder and mica flakes suspended in an acrylic medium- this gave it a shiny, metallic
sheen. Then came the patinas to rust and age it- built up slowly in layers and then lightly sanded to knock it back a few
coats and then repeated to desired effect. The shiny feather/horns on top of the head are painted with interference colors- like iridescent colors, but much more dramatic- especially on top of a black base coat, as on this piece.
The pix here were shot with a digital camera- it's a good camera, but digital still isn't quite there yet- add to that that the files had to be converted to send and post- and what you get are images suitable to convey overall form, but not the subtlety of the surface quality. Later (as in much) I'll shoot some slides of the piece so that you can get a clearer picture.
At this time I would like to thank Firebane- whom I know is buried under eight feet (and raising) of schoolwork at this very moment- for posting the images for me.
Just in case you were wondering if I learned all this nifty stuff at art school- nope. The school I attended stressed concept over craft, and I was constantly derided for making things that were so finished. The fact that I was making "pedestal art" in a new genres and performance/video
dept. didn't help much either. Of course none of my teachers or fellow students could see the statement I was making by creating such obviously non cutting edge work:
You guys go ahead and play your games with language and reference and keep creating work that panders to art critics and curators. I'll make these "Things" that act as vessels for
myth, both ancient and modern- and release them on an unsuspecting world. Cheers.
Edited by: Snipe at: 9/4/01 11:54:06 am
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Movie...has...affected...thought...process...can't...think..
Saw that stupid Jay and Silent Bob movie....now the only thing I can think of to say is....
Dude, that's pretty f***ing sweet.
Leaf Muncher
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In reguards to art
toatlly agree Snipe, i don't like how people are moulding people to people's views.. anway night night.
~Leaf ~
ShadowStriker
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Re: Queztal Noir Sculpt- by Snipe
Regarding the transformation process, let me begin by stating that if Snipe hadn't informed us, that I would have never guessed that the original mask was wood. To me it looked like rusted, discolored metal. Shows how much I don't know.
Also, in spite of the dramatic transformation, which is obvious when visually examining the sculpture, I had no idea of the labor intensive process required in addition to the artistic skill in shaping the piece and bringing life into it. Again, shows how much I don't know.
Though I don't fully comprehend the entire process, I took enough art classes in high school to be at least familiar with some of the mediums and processes described, and was especially interested to read how Snipe achieved the metallic look as well as the iridescent feathers.
I am curious as to the "etchings" alongside the eyes, Snipe. Are they actual etchings or were they somehow painted on to make them appear as such? To me, they are one aspect of the sculpture which adds the mysterious ancient feel, along with the metallic texture and glistening feathers.
I find it fascinating that only a small percentage of the original mask was used as a basis for the sculpture, though retaining enough similarities to let us know that it is the same piece. Whereas the original mask is somewhat garish in appearance it has been transformed into a representation of an ancient mysterious creature.
Thank you for sharing, Snipe, both the sculpture and the sculptor's process.
How can we be so different and feel so much alike?...How can we feel so different and be so much alike? -- from Stellaluna
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Ooh! Great job! To me, it looks something like a Skeksees (sp?) from Dark Crystal. Either that or some strange helmet for an alien. The feathers are a great touch, and I love the shine on them! And I think it looks tremendously better than what it was before you got it=)
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Now that you mention it, it does look like one of them thingys from the Dark Crystal. Great job oh Commander-Shaman of the sacred Isle.
"Let him who wishes for peace prepare for war." -Vegetius